llama3 inference numbers

#llama #large_language_models #technology #performance


to continue the tradition from llama1 and llama2, here is the llama3 numbers. this time i made a script: llamabench to scale out to more machines and ensure my data is correct across all of them

all benches running with llama.cpp commit 0e4802b2ecbaab04b4f829fde4a3096ca19c84b5 (2024-04-19)

model used: https://huggingface.co/NousResearch/Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct-GGUF/tree/main, at Q4_K_M quantization

see previous llama2 inference numbers and llama inference numbers

reading recommentation #

there is a LOT of data. i recommend skipping to the findings. they provide pretty graphs.

inference hardware #

many thanks to people that provided hardware systems to run the benchmarking script

hostname cpu ram gpu
wall AMD Ryzen 5 5800X3D 32GB (4x8) DDR4-2666 NVIDIA GALAX RTX3060 12GB
elpis AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 16GB (1x16) DDR4-2666 AMD MAXSUN RX580 2048SP
switchblade (steam deck lcd) Zen 2 4c/8t, 2.4-3.5GHz (up to 448 GFlops FP32) 16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (5500 MT/s quad 32-bit channels) N/A
steamdeck (also an lcd edition) - - -
chlorine (steam deck oled) Zen 2 4c/8t, 2.4-3.5GHz (up to 448 GFlops FP32) 16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (6400 MT/s quad 32-bit channels) N/A
arctic-rose Intel Xeon E5-2667 v2 32GB (4x8) DDR3-1866 ECC NVIDIA MSI RTX2060 12GB
fusion Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 32GB (4x8) DDR3-1600 N/A
DESKTOP-T0IEVSO AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 32GB (2x16) DDR4-1800 N/A
sidekick Intel Core i5-2400 16GB (4x4) DDR3-1600 N/A
apparition Intel Xeon E5345 (x2) 12GB ??? DDR2-??? (need to open it up and check) N/A
obstinate-serenity Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200H CPU @ 2.80GHz 8GB (2x4) DDR3L-1600 N/A
reticent-iris Intel Core i7-4770 12GB (3x4) DDR3-1600 N/A
ubuntu-8gb-hel1-1 Hetzner CX31 (2 "shared" vcpu) 8GB RAM (QEMU) N/A
ubuntu-8gb-hel1-2 Hetzner CCX13 (2 "dedicated" vcpu) 8GB RAM (QEMU) N/A
scw-beautiful-hertz Scaleway DEV1-L (4vcpu) 8GB RAM (QEMU) N/A

inference software #

hostname distro version kernel version gcc nvidia driver openblas
wall void linux n/a (rolling release) 6.6.22_1 11.2 550.67 0.3.27
elpis void linux n/a (rolling release) 6.6.22_1 13.2 n/a 0.3.26
switchblade steamos beta 3.5.17 + gentoo prefix 6.1.52-valve16-1-neptune-61 13.2.1 n/a 0.3.25
chlorine steamos 3.5.19 + gentoo prefix 6.1.52-valve16-1-neptune-61 13.2.1 n/a 0.3.25
steamdeck steamos 3.5.7 6.1.52-valve9-1-neptune-61 13.1.1 n/a 0.3.23
arctic-rose (unstable sw atm) gentoo n/a (rolling) TODO 13.2.1 TODO TODO
fusion debian 11 5.10.0-20-amd64 10.2.1 n/a 0.3.13
DESKTOP-T0IEVSO windows 10 22H2 + MSYS2 2024-01-13 n/a 13.2.0 (amd) 24.3.1 0.3.27
ubuntu-8gb-hel1-1 ubuntu 24.04 noble 6.8.0-31-generic 13.2.0 n/a 0.3.26
ubuntu-8gb-hel1-2 ubuntu 24.04 noble 6.8.0-31-generic 13.2.0 n/a 0.3.26
scw-beautiful-hertz ubuntu 22.04 jammy 5.15.0-102-generic 11.4.0 n/a 0.3.20

notes #

the graphs #

cpu graphs #

the "clean" style means it ran without any BLAS libraries, just raw gcc

there are various categories of compute we will look into with later graphs

openblas #

the first interesting comparison we can make is how much openblas actually contributes to a system, and in general the results are somewhat inconclusive. +2t/s at best.

avx #

one question we had while going through the data is what avx can do in terms of inference speed. while we don't have a system with avx and another without that is of comparable specs, we have two systems that are "close enough":

primary differences between apparition and arctic-rose:

while the comparison can't be clear on avx vs. no avx, those changes in the system bring a massive improvement to inference speed (from basically 0.5t/s up to 10t/s).

steam deck lcd vs oled #

it is known that the deck oled made an upgrade to its SoC that can bring up to 10FPS uplift depending on the game, as shown by GamersNexus' data

what about inference speed? actually not much. (chlorine is an oled model, the others are lcd)

future work should look into running the vulkan backend on those devices. we were unable to get all the sdk's working right to build llama.cpp with it.

(note, steamdeck was likely not running with the cpu scaling governor set to performance, which is the likely reason its numbers do not align as well as switchblade, which also is a steam deck lcd)

what about vps'es? #

the primary point in ggml's manifesto reads:

Inference at the edge

well, what about the cheapest edge we have? random vps'es from some of the cheap cloud providers?

at most, 5t/s, with a dedicated hetz getting the best per-thread speed (of course, because they're a dedicated vcpu, though i'm not sure if they area actually allocated to real hardware cores, rather than shared. looks like it from the data, at least)

also be aware that cpu scaling governors are also not performance as those cpus are QEMU virtualized, so i am unable to set them.

gpu graphs #

for gpu benchmarks, the -t and -ngl parameter spaces were greatly reduced so that benchmarks don't take days to finish. because of that, their resolution is decreased

the way these are shown is by showing 5 graphs at different scales of -ngl, from 0 to 33 (max). only two systems have nvidia gpus and so they can have both vulkan and cuda comparisons.

by the shown data, the llama.cpp cuda backend can provide absurd amounts of speed compared to vulkan, even though they operate almost the same at -ngl 0. heavily consider it even if finding a way to build it is a mess (hehe my python packaging patterns)

and elpis's RX580-2048SP-that-came-from-aliexpress-which-is-probably-downclocked can at best pull off 20t/s, which is somewhat surprising considering it's a 600BRL card (wall's RTX3060 pulls approx. 35t/s, and that's running for around 2000BRL)

the raw data #

will be offered at